"Well, it depends on one's skill, where I'm from--the initiates still need the trappings of their particular art, but if they devote themselves..." The intimation is that said trappings fall away pretty fast, if they work hard. She's the type to work hard, so magic was just another thing that came without too much difficulty.

If his magic doesn't work, hers certainly wouldn't, which earns the candle a pout. "Maybe, but it isn't as if they're not enduring punishment for their mistakes, you know? They've found a way to house us, a way to at least try to fix what they've done, for all that we don't like it. They're trying to restore what balance they can. I'm not sure I'll commend them until it actually works, but I mean, an attempt has been made. I'll note that, at least."